cb474 if you read my post you will have seen it was ended with a (). You will see that the reference to the cake was not a comparison of the phone , but a comparison to the type of decision being made i.e. a purchase is not just about features functions and specifications and a need to fulfill a task, and that there might be a significant element of emotion (joy, elation, adventure,loyalty etc) involved in the decision making. Having your cake and eat it was meant to point out the fact that emotional decisions accept a significant element of compromise, and that's OK as well. It's a shame that you saw it as a personal attack rather than an attempt to put some lightness into the thread. Mike C