Well, I finally got xkbd to compile, so no more 100% CPU. I had been playing around with openbox for a while now, I also installed blackbox. openbox was nice but the window buttons were too hard to hit. I am currently running fluxbox with ROX and I am liking it. I have a menu on the toolbar for ROX, and a pager, on the pager you can drag things between the desktops, with fluxbox you can also drag windows to other desktops like in wmaker. I am going to start working towards making a more sold desktop environment. I would like to get some feedback one what you like, what you dont, what you want to see. I am thinking of not including wmaker in the next dump, or maybe just make it another option to use with rox. Anyone want to help, let me know.