OK boys and girls. Here is an important message, at least for german preorderers. I just called nokia germany and got the following information:

Nokia did start to ship the devices from their factories to the nokia shops on 10th of november.

By now, nokia online shop germany did not receive the devices. But as soon as they arrive, they will ship to the preorderers. They believe that it's the 25th of november or even sooner.

And one imporant message: NO shop or online shop in germany will get the devices sooner as NOKIA Online Shop. Their preorderers will get the devices as the first in Germany.

So I am very glad I preordered at the right shop and now i'll wait patiently for being one of the first who will get the device. (Preordered 29th of august).

This means, preorderes who ordered from amazon or expansys or so, will have to wait longer than me and other preorderers from nokia online shop.