Every time some new device is announced that creates a lot of interest, there are threads like this that go on endlessly trying to guess when the device is going to come out. They are full of hunches, "inside" information, endless criticism of the manufacturer for not delivering the product on a schedule tailored to the convenience of the particular person posting in the thread, and finally very long off topic debates. I think it's just a way of passing the time between the first announcement, when there's lots of new information, and the interminable lull when there's no news and everyone is just waiting. Unfortunately, checking threads like this, on a daily basis, only exaggerates the sense of time passing and torments the expectant user of the upcoming device (yours truly included).