Seriously, unless you have a tracking number, I wouldn't really trust any delivery date. I'm going to be no more surprised if they ship tomorrow then if they ship Dec. 15. I will be moderately surprised and disappointed if they don't get it out in time for xmas, since that's just a big marketing slip-up and I will be legitimately annoyed if they don't ship before 12/31, since that's the cut-off to qualify for the Mail In Rebate, and at least some people likely have their purchase decision hinging on that $50.