Are you some kind of Nokiabot? Are you really stupid enough to think that this thread is just mindless Nokia bashing? Oh, poor Nokia, they just want to be our friend and we're all just not playing nice. GROW UP. Everyone complaining in this thread has a completely legitimate reason for doing so. They have been confused, let down, and basically lied to. You were one of the people who claimed there had been no delay and Nokia had not gone back on its own info. So what do you have to say about the 16th of November arriving and there being NO info from Nokia at all, despite them claiming this as the launch date? What about it being then pushed back to the 23rd? Then the 30th? Now the 3rd of December. How many setbacks will it take for YOU to accept that this is not reasonable? If youre not a bot then youre definitely one of those guys who pays a small fortune to have women walk on you in high heels. Only a total masochist would be numb to this ****ing nonsense. Either say something sensible or just shut the **** up.