I dont know, all the Amazon repersentatives I get connected to, seem to be complete dumbasses .. no idea about anything .. the guy i talked to about the rebate date issue, i literally had to tell him to go to so n so page, and open up the rebate, and then read its requirements, for him to understand what i was saying ... 40 minutes of my life wasted .. how do you guys call into Amazon .. ? Maybe I'm doing this wrong for some reason ..