After reading this thread I phoned Barclays and they confirmed that the money had been taken by Nokia (I phoned initially to make sure they authorize the transaction and forgo the complications I had read about/loose my discounts) But anyways, all jokes aside I think this thread reflects poorly on us Brits. In every other thread when a native consumer posts info on how to get the device either a) sooner b) cheaper they don't debate they use that free advice to their advantage. Just for confirmation I spoke to Nokia twice today. Again at the regent street store and Nokia.co.uk both said that other retailers are allowed (by agreement) to use their brand/brand likeness But both confirmed that if either were part of Nokia they would receive and dispatch the devices the same time as NOKIA As they would have access to the same stock!!! And Shipping agreements!!! BTW Carphonewarehouse &phones4U are both expecting delivery early Dec? Perhaps the 3rd?