I understand that, but how is this not a 3rd, if not 4th gen product ? All but the phone bits have been around. And Nokia is real good at the phone part.

I'm going to compare it to what I know, like and/or loathe because it has to replace it. Not a phone I had 3-4 years ago. One I've had just 3-4 weeks ago.

And things like random reboots and stuff, I didn't give Apple any quarter. Why should I give one to Nokia?