Sounds like me with this thread Amazon pre-order 18 Nov Ship address: Chicago $479 inc rebate 103-454....... order No. "Not yet shipped" Can those who had their status changed tell me if they ever saw this message? "The following item will arrive after December 25, 2009" ? I am assuming this is just a system generate flag for items that may be presents that do not have confirmed shipping yet. Once a shipping date is known the 'flag' disappears? Cheers