@penguinbait, I did not ask for your pity or that of anyone here in this forum. I am simply stating a fact about a device that Nokia is marketing as a finished product, ready from mass market up take, but which is actually suited for developers, in terms of availability and price. As for it being Linux, or Palm, or Windows Mobile, I could not care less. I only want functionality and not to have to load a Linux disk because a Nokia product is having a bad day and can not be fixed even by reformatting the device. For this I do blame Nokia. They made the OS, and bear the the responsibility for the good and the bad. They got paid for it. I didn't bounce a check to them, or say come back with I have Euro Version 2.0. I know that devices need upgrades and have quirks. I was prepared to live with this, but at retail prices, I feel that I am not getting what I paid for. The N800 is well suited to be a practical device but in terms of software, and the everyday things that most people would need it for, it is lacking. If you can't see that I can recommend a good eye doctor to you. As for a 21 day return policy. Great to have but some of us live in Europe, me in Finland, and I don't have this policy. Another moot point. As I said, I will put my N800 in a draw, continue to read these forums and see if any advances have been made that would make this a device that is more appealing to those that aren't developers.