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Originally Posted by OrangeBox View Post
"Nokia had an on device application and service delivery system on its phones long ago. "Download" was ahead of its time, and a precursor to the Ovi Store."

And it was NOTHING compared to the App store. Not even close. It was a totally cheap user experience. How many people used it vs. directly downloading stuff from getjar and copying it over via USB? Also, it had nothing to do with the whole app ecosystem. What Apple did was to create an end-to-end solution where developers, marketeers and users all benefit from the app store.
It wasn't and still isn't that important for Nokia. I preferred to search for my own apps anyway. App Stores are never complete, but Apple's has set the bar. I only pointed out that it was an idea Apple copied from Nokia, who got it from the Japanese.

By the way, why use USB when I used to just download and install straight from the browser? Looks like you weren't as wise as most Nokia users. Good thing Apple does all your thinking for you. I've aways called the iPhone the "smartphone for dummies".

"Nokia almost invented the "desktop view on a mobile", and is still the leader in that space to this day. Most Nokia smartphones and even some featurephones do Flash embedded objects."

I give you this one, although what is to invent about using a browser that supports flash? Could the iPhone not do it? Is it not just a licensing issue?
Ask Apple. Before the HTC Hero, only S60 devices had this feature. Skyfire brought it to WinMo. Now even the Palm WebOS has it. Why is it taking so long for Apple to catch up?? Please answer this honestly. I can give you a clue. Pure predatory nickle and diming of neophyte consumers. Apple makes a living off of those that don't know any better, like you. Nokia has implemented the features used most, like IM, so we aren't forced to pay $1.99 for it. And hots off to them for it.


"Nokia's 770, the original Maemo device, featured an icon based touch interface years before the iPhone. "

This is not a fair comparison. Apple iPhone came about in 2007. Anything before that (i.e. the invention of the transistor) can be credited to someone else obviously.
I don't see why not? You claim they "invented" this and that, but they didn't. In fact, do some searching, and you'll find Nokia has most of the patents that are the backbone of this industry. They're the real innovators. Apple has profitted from the blood and sweat of Nokia technology, with no compensation for three years! So some of those profits belong to Espoo. It is what it is.

What apple brought to the masses is the smartphone, however want to define it. Before the iPhone there were no smartphones.
It didn't have any third party application framework in 2007, and wasn't a smartphone at the time it launched. Jobs called it one and the sheep flocked. IMO, no non ultitasking device should be considered a smartphone. For example, what feature or function did the original iPhone have that an upper tier S40 featurephone didn't? I'll tell you this. S40 devices matched the iPhone feature for feature, AND added a framework for installable apps! Were those smartphones, too? Or is it only a smartphone if dumba**es can use it? Because every man, woman, and child could use S40.

And no, the N95 is not a smartphone. It is a phone with great features but is missing the "smart" part. For most people smartphone means that the phone is smart and not the user. It is to make users' lives easier.That's why the iPhone is a success here, because as you Europeans like to say "Americans are dumb".
ROFL!! The N95 was the first phone termed a superphone. It was one of the best selling smartphones of all time, without counting sales of its candybar version, the N82. These 2 year old, nearly 3 year old, models are still highly coveted and sold today. They remain in the top ten rated smartphones on InfoSync to this day! It's no fun if you run in traffic. At least pose some sort of a defense. Opinions are like...

And by the way. I'm 100% American, born in Louisiana, living in the DFW Metroplex, proud home of the Telecom Corridor. We know a thing or two about mobility and communications, and a large concentration of mobile bloggers and analyst call the area home. (Shout out to Texrat, Darla Mack, Gadget Virtuoso, Symbian Guru, and the rest of the crew!)

I live to engage and expose ill informed chaps like yourself, as you can see in my last post on MF:
http://maemo-freak.com/index.php/tho...yst-are-idiots

Were you of any significance, I'd be roasting you as well, along with your TiPB brethren. But I'll let you make it. I suggest you do alot more studying, learn the industry from a global business perspective, and come back when you're more seasoned. You know a little, but have so much to learn...
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