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Originally Posted by OrangeBox View Post
"I live to engage and expose ill informed chaps like yourself"

"Were you of any significance, I'd be roasting you as well, along with your TiPB brethren. But I'll let you make it. I suggest you do alot more studying, learn the industry from a global business perspective, and come back when you're more seasoned. You know a little, but have so much to learn... "
I put it pretty harshly, but I didn't mean it to come off so mean. I'll just say I've done alot of study in the markets, and you don't seem to be abreast of the situation at all except from the walled US perspective. You like the iPhone, which is ok, as well as Nokia, which is also ok. But its not a fashion show or a popularity contest. It is about customers, audience, and building brand loyalty. Nokia is the king of that.

Apple could claim 2/3rds of Nokia's smartphone share, and still, Nokia would represent the majority of phones sold. When you say Nokia's share can only fall, and Apple's can only rise, you ignore all rules of economics and enter fantasy land. You were grabbing at straws, and when you do that, I will give your ribs a kick. It is what I do. I won't do anything but use your neophyte statements against you.

Well, what can I say? Above summarizes it all. Thank you and all your above quoted brethren for wasting your higher-plane existance on menial threads like this posted by insignificant, ill informed, uneducated people like myself.

I'm out. It's been an eye opener. Now I know that this is not a community that I want to belong to.
If you left, I wouldn't cry. You seemed hellbent on becoming disruptive and negative, and to paint a picture only a blind man could see. I don't like guys that do that. You have to learn to listen to many voices, not just those that subscribe to your views. I think I've presented some decent facts for you to ponder, and you did as well, in the beginning.

But did you learn anything? Did you manage to get anyone to see any logic to your statements? I think I did and you didn't. I think you came here to sway others, to act as an apostate, as they call them in religious terms. But this business is run by many far smarter and informed than the two of us.

I didn't learn this overnight. I have read countless studies and reports, and I follow the Steve Jobs, OPKs, and Bill Gates of this world to get the whole story. You seem to have drank the Kool-Aid, as they say, spewn by those intent on raising money and inspiration from stockholders. That is all rhetoric. There's a million ways to skin a cat, an a such thing as a one hit wonder. Apple is successful, but the same things they're doing now, they did with the Mac PC. Where is it today relatively?

Consumers care about cost. Cheaper, more efficient, and more common always win. Until Apple can sell a smartphone for $250 without subsidy, it won't replace Nokia. And no one can do it but Nokia. Maybe the ODMs in China using Android and guys like Kogan, but they don't have the manufacturing power to do it in the scale Nokia does. Just the facts.

I suggest you start following this blog:
http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/
It is my idol and role model's blog, Mr. Tomi Ahonen, former Nokia executive and one of it not the most quoted and published mobile industry authors in the world. He's also a lecturer at Oxford. I've read two of his books, and he's always right. Period. You will learn alot from his insight.

I also follow Mark Cuban. He's just a genius, and thinks outside of the box. He's not always right, but his ideas are usually good, if not implemented well. Warren Buffet is another guy to follow.

Once you've read these guys books and follow their blogs and business moves, you can see there is always a big picture. You have to look deeper, and not be sentimental, like I sometimes am. I'm not a fanboy, but a big fan of Nokia philosophy and intention. I want them to succeed, because they only seem to want to improve access to technology, nothing more. They have to make a profit, but they don't seem so aggressive or predatory like other companies. Nokia and Motorola and hallowed brands for what they stand for, and I like them, and root for them. Apple and Google? Not so much. But they have good strategy sometimes too, especially Google. But Nokia is on a roll right now. Watch and see.
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