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I think you might be missing some of our points. By saying that this discussion has taken place previously, is not saying that the OP should have searched and joined that discussion. This discussion is a "new" discussion of the current state of talk.maemo, where as older threads on this topic were of previous states of talk.maemo. So this was a perfectly fine new thread.

However, it's a new thread, about a topic that has occured before - and we have issued warnings about ways we have seen this develop before. Complete re-orgs are not easy, and constantly changing the website because users decide they don't like it anymore can get severely cumbersome for moderators and admins.

I have no seen anywhere Texrat say he doesn't want a re-org or wouldn't support one. In fact, my understanding of his posts are the exact opposite: He acknowledges a problem and would stand behind a fix that makes sense. What I don't see Tex doing is getting behind a "bandaid" solution that will just be changed in a few months anyway.

Simply changing the "new posts" to allowing what to select is a band-aid solution, for example. It address your primary problem, but not the overall problem as I see the forum. (and also, seeing the problem below, there is almost no feasible way to even implement this as is - that I can think).

Here's your specific example, as I have already said:

The categories and structure of this forum was done in a non top-level and hierarchical manner. Maybe Non-relational would be a better way to put it. What I mean by this, is that we have a "Software" section, for example. Beneath that "Software" section we have Multimedia, Games, and Applications.

Multimedia Apps for Diablo are Different than Fremantle, and 2006. But all we have is "multimedia". There is no way in the current configuration to show a relationship from an Application or "Software" to where it actually belongs (except through tags).

This is why in the layout I advocated we look at the most basic of what our devices are. In their simplest forms we have Hardware, and we have an Operating System. Those should be, IMHO, the root level categories.

Beneath these are pretty obvious, Hardware lists the different devices, Operating Systems will list the different Operating Systems.

Now, for something like "Software".. if there is a need for another category (I don't know how many sub-categories the forum can go) you would actually create several. You would have a Applications, Games, and Other - for example - beneath ALL the different Operating Systems. This shows, in some way, the relational aspect of the software, to it's OS - which is very key. So there will be several categories called "Applications" - one under Femantle, one under Diablo, etc.

Users would then only pay attention to their top-level category that they care about. I think this "relationship" is what Tex was referring to as dimensions (I could be wrong) - and no solution will cover all possible relationships between Software to OS to Hardware. I am in no way saying my idea is best, and I haven't put together or built a whole plan in utilizing it or providing a full example.. which is why I have not gone to the brainstorm.

This is just the problem as I see the current structure, and a possible solution... it's about as clear as I can make it, for me anyway.. so I will probably be posting less in this thread like Tex. I just don't think I can explain it any differently, unfortunately. So if I'm just not making any sense... I apologize.

Last edited by fatalsaint; 2009-12-15 at 17:54.
 

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