Sorry. I guess you're right. No offense meant. And, in addition to my button-click Thanks! for setting up the Brainstorm, Thanks Again.

I do feel like I have a sense of urgency that, particularly on the earlier thread, you and fatalsaint don't share. I look around and say to myself, "What's become of penguinbait?" "What's become of ioan?" I've heard from lm2 that he's bailing because it's all N900 all the time. Bunanson was of that mind (a little more complex than that, but it was a core part) until he opted for an N900. I've heard from others and read other posts to that effect. So I think there's irreversible disintegration going on, which I think likely already has been fatal for a viable N8x0 community. So when I read a post that sounds unduly patient, it triggers a frustration reaction.

I've been arguing for some way simply to create a haven for N8x0 users within talk.maemo.org for over a month. I feel it's urgent. When you "play devil's advocate" or bring in all kinds of other problems, I regard it as an obstacle that delays something that needs to be done yesterday. So when you say, "this is going to take a while," there's a button in me that gets pushed. Or we could say a trigger that gets pulled. And insofar as you took a bullet as a result, I apologize.

Now what can we do to get this implemented soon?