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Originally Posted by OrangeBox View Post
Agreed. Unfortunately though the next 2 years will decide the long term winners and losers. Technological platform changes are not what customers need and want. Whoever manage to create enough momentum and create a huge enough customer base for smart phones will survive. Nokia is great at catering to every market segment, but not all segments are equally profitable. IMO Nokia should cut its whole S40 division with the exception of its 5 most popular models, same with S60. Then concentrate its effort in the high end segment. If it wants to be a technological pioneer all those breakthrougs will come there not at the low end.
2 years change a lot... Remember Motorola? :P They were huge with Razr and then came n95 and then iPhone... 2 years more or less...
We see a lot of hype in the industry and news is what sells so I see a lot of doom-ish and bashing about Nokia in favor of Apple for example.

hmm.. about scrapping the Symbian division I think you have a very high end centric vision of things. Even though what you said about profitability it is true, Nokia has the eyes in developing markets as well... Many of this markets need to have the lower end phones and Nokia is trying to provide services, more or less same idea as iTunes, for this markets with the mind that it can harness the mindshare of this markets. Search for Nokia Life Tools, it is a great example and if executed properly will be a great communication platform.

I have been living in Asia for some time and it is incredible how many Nokia phones I saw there... Asia is the next big thing for Nokia and it is about Asia where they are betting big (dunno if wrong or right but still). Scrapping this platform there would create a vacuum that some other company will full fill and no one wants that :P It is better to have a so-so profit platform with a possibility for a turn over, as IBM does, for more expensive hardware than another competitor... Let's say that in the end Nokia kills Google, Apple and MS, it will still need to fight the low-end monster it created. And I bet Nokia knows this.

Well, for MS it never was a strategic goal. It was more like a pet project. For Google it's life (expansion) or death (stagnation).
Yep, in the beginning... But look at how they are trying to "shake" things up. Zune and the new WinMo 7...

A lot of "analysts" point the diversity of platforms in Nokia as a weakness and if they are right MS is not moving that nicely.

Could be, but it gains new developers too. Same must be true for Maemo, but I bet that Symbian is getting less and less interesting for would be developers, especially that Nokia itself seems to be at a loss wrto its future.

And can you please explain you reasons as to why the iPhone will not be at the finals?
Someone pointed out that Symbian is mistakenly confused with S60 and I agree with that, problem with Symbian is more the interface and development that it is too cumbersome. I agree with you, but Qt is coming to solve all of this problems... I know, WORA is a big promise and a lot of people think it is too difficult to make it happen but... What if? "Analysts", including some industry commentators like John C. Dvorak, said that Apple should have stayed out from the Phone business and look how they are doing now :P

Apple in the end will likely concentrate just in content delivery... Money is there, but if you are talking about development platforms and innovation this will come from Maemo and Android.

If Apple doesnt give more freedom for developers, I am risking my self here since I never wrote anything for Apple but thats the idea I get when I read blogs and hear people talking, they are fencing them selfs for many of the developments that are coming...

Just look at Google Voice and the inability to have multiple browsers. This is fine for now but I dont see such restrictions winning the space on the long term.

Oh boy, thats why I didnt want to post about Apple :P I wrote and wrote and still was very unclear... Off to sleep dude...