Thread: Ouch... Android is making my n900 look bad.
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gerbick
2010-01-05 , 21:28
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
Ok so just for the sake of arguing..
Now that's the spirit

What devices had 1.0??? I think the G1 had 1.1 and was upgraded to 1.5.
I'd say since the SDK was 1.0, the G1 that came out was initially 1.0, quickly moved to 1.1 - view possible proof here.

So, on actual devices we've had 1.1, 1.5, 1.6 and 2.0. (I don't think 2.1 is on an actual device you can buy yet?).
Not yet, but in less than a month... yes. You can have a 2.1 device.

Maemo has OS2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 (with Diablo), that all ran on non phones.
True, but opensource could have patched a phone easily into the OS... and did with Maemo 5.

Now, most people seem to think that OS2009/Fremantle 5/whatever entire UI is a *significant* improvement over 2008's UI. This is similar to the hype you're seeing for the Nexus 1's new UI for Android. Sure, it looks nice - they are doing something right, but why ignore what the N900 also did right on IT'S UI improvment??
I agree. It is a proper movement in the right direction. In fact, it's a much more consistent UI than OS 2008. Why do you think I still haunt this community - besides my N810? The UI has so much promise, I want it to win.

Also in so doing, Fremantle had to change a bunch of the insides of the OS to make it practically new - and is the only one of all the previous OS's to be on a device that can make real phone calls, not VOIP. Android, because of it's dalvik-centric design was able to run SOME previous apps.. but there was hella problems from 1.5 to 1.6 IIRC due to Android limitations hard coded into the OS.
Ah, see... Fremantle did change the whole insides. Something that neither Mobile OS X nor Android has had to do yet. But despite going to a new platform, they still had enough of the prior framework to really not call it "step zero", but it was pretty damn close from my understanding.

The phone came out in Oct? Nov? And people were crying they didn't have a new firmware by December? Seriously?
Yeah... I'm still waiting on new firmware since June. But I'm just as surprised too about the level of whinging about the new firmware. I've seen dates slip by almost a year before on some other things.

Also.. a lot of people are yelling at Nokia for lack of apps... Even google has a very minute set of core apps that are from "google".. Youtube, Browser, Market, Email, etc. All the other Apps are from third party developers - not Google.
But Google will pay/entice other companies to develop on their platform... as well as stay there too. Then when the users get higher, as it did... the updates are still coming. You know how frustrating it is to know that I'll never get another Fring (I've e-mailed and tweeted to them to change their mind) or Skype upgrade on my N810 knowing that it might happen again on the N900? It downright scares me that I'll be stranded on a platform that's heavily evangelized but easily left behind because of how Nokia picks up, restarts between OS restarts and this time, I actually know about Maemo 6 in advance... it's scary.

You cannot compare third party apps between platforms...
Damn. I just did... oops.

...that is entirely dependent on the developers - not the parent company. Developers will go where there are users.. it's catch-22 world in that aspect. What you *can* compare is a stock OS', and if you want, apps released officially from the Parent.
This, I agree with fully.

I don't see where it mentions whether 2.1 Android has flash built-into the browser.. does it? Does the Droid? Is it Flash 9.4 or higher?
Droid was found to be 9.4 with the 10.1 upgrade coming in Spring of 2010. That alone is forcing my hand to see who will be first - the N900 or Android.

The lack of an Ovi Store, bad map software, and bad GPS could be legitimate complaints - as these are shared from Android to Maemo. Market, Google Maps, and Navigation. However, Navigation just recently hit android.. before that the navigation software of the Android sucked too.
Despite those being legitimate complaints... you know damn well they'll be upgraded and improved soon enough. But it's fun playing devil's advocate sometimes
 

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