a lot of posts on here seem to assume that people with gripes didnt check the product info before it was released. I did - but lots of what was promised doesn't exist. It wasn't until 2 months after I preordered it that Nokia announced it wouldnt work on 3 sims - even tho I specifically checked this at the time that the order was placed. As for comparing the iPhones update history to Nokias, I tend to agree that this is the first release so I probably expected some bugs, especially knowing Nokias track record of releasing phones that don't do what it says on the tin! Suggesting Nokia will lose its lead as a market leading phone maker, which phone are we talking about?? Nokia haven't held that honour for a long time! Nokia need to concentrate efforts to: 1 make this phone work as it says it would on the pre sale material 2 fix bugs, especially the 3 sim issue and mms shortcoming as its biggest priority - yes i realise some of you dont think mms is necessary but for very many users, it is. 3 Make it work as a phone. If some of you guys want to carry around a phone and an N900, and find that acceptable - personally I think your expectations in life must be fairly low. 4 Stop brown nosing up to Nokia. They have a duty to provide the phone/device whatever you want to call it, as promised. Don't accept these shortcomings else Nokia will sit back on their laurels and do nothing about it. 5 This is an extra moan - can people PLEASE stop posting duplicate posts! There are hundreds of threads that all say the same thing!!! Can't we have a sticky for problems and maybe a poll on what features people expect? I find it a PITA that I have to trawl through soo many posts that say the same thing just to find something interesting. cheers