Hi, I agree, it is a pain. It's ironic, though, that you posted to the mailing list (where the discussion started) to ask everyone there to come here (where penguinbait moved the discussion) and to repeat their points here for the benefit of everyone who doesn't read the list. You would likely lose a lot of input from me if maemo-community were done away with in favour of tmo. I simply don't have the time to spend tracking every discussion in even one forum here. Cheers, Dave.