Are we all on the same page about what "community discussions" means? There are a number of things it could mean: 1. A talking shop where everyone gathers 2. A workplace where anyone can look in & see what people are working on 3. A forum for interacting with Nokia 4. A forum for interacting with the council & maemo.org staff These are all very different - for example, if you use a forum as the primary contact point for interacting with Nokia, I would question how effective that'll be. If you want a place where anyone can trace what people are working on & ask questions if they're not getting enough information, or join in if they have the time, energy & ability, then the mailing list is that. If you want a talking shop, then there will always be people who opt out, regardless of whether it's IRC, a mailing list or a forum. And if it's a place for the entire community (by the way, is there anyplace where I can find the entire Maemo community???) to interact with the council & the staff, again, I'd question how effective that would be, especially since people appear to have issues with both the high volume and low SNR on forum threads. So - penguinbait, if I may, what activities *exactly* do you want to see happen in the community forum? Some illustrative examples might help. Thanks! Dave.