The fact is, like qole said it has been decided.

The problem as I see it.

Decisions are made on the community mailing list the affects the whole community without the entire communities input.

Was this ever the intent of the community mailing list? To answer my own question, No it was not intended for that.

In fact when you subscribe to the list you will notice its name. "List for community development"

This is existed before ITT was integrated into maemo.org.

To me, the mailing list can stay, but, a big BUT. The maemo community council, should now decide what information should be put out where. I believe the mailing list should continue for development, but not for running the community. The developers on the mailing lists end up making decisions which are not reflective of the entire community. What is worse is decisions about TMO are happening on the mailing list, where many of the people as the past few days can attest, don't like the forums, don't want to use the forums.

So we have a line of separation already, apparently many list users don't want this line removed, it should then be enhanced.

We need to define, where each post should be. If it reflects the entire community it should be on talk, if it affects the development community it should be on the developers mailing list.

Nobody wants to take tools away from the development community, we want to take control of our destiny, where more people are involved in the direction of OUR community.

This is NOT a community of developers, it is a community of, developers, admins, help desk, QA analysts, lawyers, hackers, marketers, users, and many more.


Does this make sense? It still to me leaves much of happens on the mailing lists hidden to the majority of the community. I truly believe getting more information easily available would get more people involved, but I digress.


Here are some examples of how I think some of the discussions happening on the mailing list should be moved to the forums.

Mailing List
News for FOSDEM
Brainstorm data reporting
PR 1.1 community beta testing - results?
Periodic cleanup of Extras-Devel?
Community testers for Fremantle PR 1.1


Forums
Sprint task: Refine the karma system
Relaunching the Wiki Action Group
Maemo community calendar events project
#maemo IRC cloaks
Suggested colour change for visited links
Brainstorm: useful?
A business case for Maemo

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While this would be nice in a perfect world, I think we will always have crossover topics that need input from both mediums, even some of the ones listed above.

Ultimately the community-list will be integrated with the community section on the forums, and the so called "noise" will be louder. So it seems like the development community can wait until this happens, then complain its not the way they like it, or you can get involved and make it the way you want.

Perhaps the list can be kept, but it cannot continue to be where community decisions are made, that is not its intended use, it is for "community development" ie the developer community, not the community as a whole.