Dont even bother arguing with the naysayers, they are too blinded by the charms of eye candy UI.

I just updated my s60 based Nokia 5800XM to the latest firmware and at this point, I can honestly say that it has a combination of funtionality, form, features ( incl 2 good cameras great sound quality speakers), durability and price that no iPhone or android device can match. Its UI may be clunky but it does not take much effort learning - no hidden gestures and party tricks etc. Most importantly, its battery life is such that you can continue using it while the candy eyePhones are out of gas - essential for true mobility. No wonder its sold over 11 million copies and still selling, showing that a lot of people still value pragmatism. Not that this will lessen the noise of those who would rather judge a book by the cover.