I take it personal because: - I'm on the council - I bust my hump on community relations (Maemo Greeters, community outreach, herding threads here, etc) - I am constantly greeting (by Thanks) newcomers in the "say hello" thread. But yeah, it certainly isn't all about me, and I'm not the only one embracing eager newcomers. The numerous Maemo Greeters are doing a bang up job IMO... among many, many others. With all of the overtures we senior "staff" and others make toward people like yourself, I'm still flummoxed by your statements. Honestly: what more do we need to do? What more can we do? Are we just not progressing fast enough? far enough?