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Originally Posted by zwer View Post
Haven't you heard of the new magic word HTML5? Yeah, whenever you say that Flash have no real replacement people will shout at you - HTML5! Of course, if those people actually bothered to read what HTML5 is, and if they would only know what Flash is, they'd keep their mouth shut. But, since the internet is populated by parrots, HTML5 is the word we'll hear in much greater occurrence in the future. Ignorance, truly is bliss!
Ignorance definitely is bliss, it seems. Mozilla has already stated that they are not willing/able to support the cost of HTML5 + H.264 as a licensee - read more here.

$5 Million a year. HTML5 has been coming for over 5 years and native H.264 playback on licensed/Webkit browsers represent about 10% of the browsers out there. Yeah, it's setting the world ablaze.

Of course, the mere facts that HTML5 won't be fully implemented for years to come, that JavaScript is stuck with ECMAScript consortium not being able to make a decision for years and thus making it still a prototype based language with useless JIT execution, that every browser differently implements DOM and CSS, that there is no strict markup (XHTML tried that, and failed), that even the fastest JSVMs cannot beat, or in some cases come even close to AVM2 in almost all programming tasks, that no self-respecting developer will develop complex things in a non-strict typed language with no decent debugger and profiler, that there is no solution for vector-based animation, that HTML/JS is a decade behind Flash when it comes to connectivity, that... all those facts shouldn't stop people praising HTML5 as the next Messiah that will never come.
I don't have an argument with this. But let's face it. Complaining about what's popular without providing an option for things that people do quite regularly is pretty much... saying a lot, doing nothing. Not a good place to find yourself.

Options should exist, but they don't. Not inexpensively enough for licenses nor in full functionality. Not yet at least. Who knows what the next year might hold. Heck, even Gordon might pull the SVG+JS conversion from Flash and hush up some folks.

[quote]All praise HTML5. All praise the savior of the interwebs! [quote]

Wow.

So, you have a problem with developers, not the technology. The list of badly developed HTML pages is at least ten times longer than of those created in, or utilizing Flash. Does that mean that HTML sucks (well, it does, but that's a whole other subject)? The list of badly developed C++ applications is even more staggering, does that mean that C++ sucks and that it needs to die?
Erm, you couldn't be more wrong.

I have no problem with the developers nor the technology. I have a problem with the lack of viable competition.

Oh... and I also program in C++ too. Forgot that. So it dies... so does a portion of my income.

Flash is a technology like any other - how people will choose to implement it is their problem. Bad developers develop bad things, no matter of the technology. Blame the developers!
Even though you didn't quote me; I think the part where I said that Disney, and others, should put the blame where the problem lies - implicitly, the developers and their choices. A site should have different vectors to enter and utilize the site - I'm not even going to mention stuff like 508 compliance - if need be. Things should degrade nicely.

But to rant, rave about killing Flash - there's been so many Flash killers to date that I've officially given up counting (JavaFX, Silverlight 1, 2 and 3... SVG, that Japanese vector animation program stuff (lord I forgot the name) among others...) and I'm just getting started.

HTML5 isn't gonna save jackcrap. Not in the next few months, perhaps in the next few years it'll be where it needs to be in regards to UX/UI and video. Heck, they can't even get CSS3 finalized. Nor XML 1.1.

Oh well... H.264 drops the $5 million per year license, it'll get adopted by Mozilla.
 

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