bro funny thing is this forum seems to have the easiest search function of any forum ive used! so yeah i have searched this forum, what do you suggest i search for? i dont 'have user error with the app' what so ever? the app just does not work i.e. will not install, nothing, nada, zip, you get me bro there is not even a program to install in that link you gave? just 4 .jar files they wont install in my vista32 pc? so theme maker (both versions ive tried) do not work! therefor ill keep changing the themes on my phone, is that ok boss