its an easy out for nokia i would guess , oh you physically damaged your handset so we wont fix it, same for any source you get the phone from i would imagine, hence me asking if people were willing to stand up and say its not our fault you cheap out on the design and cause immesurable grief if / once the faults really start to roll in over time , which i imagine they will ?

I bow to the technical knowledge of people of the likes of texrat , who can see this from an engineering standpoint , not like my emotive one of this is going wrong already and its really annoying me !

We just have to see how this plays out i guess

James