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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
You already saw this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...109#post526109

If they had done their research... then yes - back in September, they would have found out that it was not supported properly.
Please read that linked post again. In fact, the word "provisioning" is not in that post. That post is not official documentation from Nokia. I get what you're saying; however you're not getting what I'm saying.

Simply put, please link me to the official documentation from Nokia that would have answered a question from a MS Exchange user/admin point of view.

THAT doesn't exist. That's my point. If it existed, one link and all of that guber99 ranting would have been proven moot.

It does not exist. Therefore, research would have been inconclusive.

They obviously did enough research to find this forum after it broke or didn't work... why couldn't they have done so before they dropped $500-$600 on a brand new, first generation (with this OS), cell phone?
Without clear documentation, assumptions via the PR verbiage can prove to be rather misleading.

I don't usually disagree with you Gerbick, as for the most part you're sane, clear, logical, and present your complaints/comments/input in a very calm and efficient manner.
I don't mind discussing with people where we might disagree. That happens. But thanks for considering me sane... at least one of us thinks so.

The only thing is lately you seem to be hell-bent on defending people that... well.. you really shouldn't be wasting your time defending. It's not that they complain.. it's how.. and even you yourself realize how ridiculous it gets.
Nope. I'm not defending those people. I actually do get where they're coming from... sure as hell wished they would present their grievances in a much better way - not in multiple threads, not all over the site, not inciting riots. Grievances, especially in this community, could enhance Maemo 5.

Instead, on one hand you got a few disgruntled folks that... well, didn't get answers as deeply as they should have before investing into the N900. Then you have others that know... they're in it for the long haul. Things that aren't here today, might be there tomorrow either via upgrade, update or community.

In the middle, it seems I'm there. I see both sides, and trying to figure out why in the heck am I one of the few that's in the middle. Able to see both sides, want the rational people to take the time to see both sides instead of "**** YOU MAN, YOU'RE A NOKIA APOLOGIST!!" or "**** YOU MAN! YOU'RE A DAMN N00B!" - and ultimately nothing gets solved.

And honestly? I shouldn't have to work this hard to get some answers from Nokia. Will they support the N900 after Maemo 6 come out? Will commercial apps continue to get updated or dropped like the N810 was? Does it support Exchange 2003 - that was actually answered fully with PR1.1, but that came in January for a product launched earlier, so I had to wait.

I mean, via Nokia... if I contact them I get PR verbiage. I come here, I get fan verbiage. And ultimately... I just want cold, hard facts. And instead of research, I'm... doing something deeper when all that's needed... Nokia just needs to beef up their own documentation to answer more questions instead of just trying to sell me something and never answer anything.

Do I find the constant whiners ridiculous? Hell yes.

But I also find that Nokia's lack of definitive communication in a few areas that would cause some people to second-guess a purchase also somewhat ridiculous. It could stop a whole bunch of whining.

And for people like me... it just stalled my potential purchase. I'd rather err on the side of caution - something I do not share with the guber99's, et al. I did my research, found some gaps, didn't pull the trigger.

I get what you're saying; however I request kindly that you see that I'm trying to improve the communication from Nokia to those that... well, need a helping hand in those areas. I'm not one of those folks; nor do I think you are. But some people... need extra it seems and it's not there.

Sorry for the long *** response. Just making myself clear. I'm defending nobody, just want the damn community to stop attacking each other, see the potential faults, make it all better. That's all.
 

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