I'm probably not the best person to ask these questions. I help teach a self defense class for when things get pretty ugly. We use real (unloaded) weapons and train to pull the trigger if necessary. We don't use training weapons, because just that, they aren't real, they don't look real. I've seen trained military "self defense" trainers totally freak out and forget their training when looking into a real gun barrel. I've seen law enforcement people get "killed" in class because their training prevents them from putting their fingers on the trigger. So yea, if I had to, I'll pull the trigger, but there's going to have to be a pretty good reason for it.

I wasn't trying to evade the fact that good people go to jail, or executed. It sucks that it happens, but like I said there has to be consequences. Putting murderers in a "time out" isn't good enough in my opinion. It sure as hell ain't working for the kids I see every day. I'm going to make a guess that you're either around my age or maybe a bit older. Remember when we were kids, you got in trouble in school, you went to the principals office. In there he'd introduce you to the paddle. Then they would call your parents, and it would suck worse once you got home. Whatever you did, you probably wouldn't do it a second time, sure as hell wouldn't do it a third. Now we can't touch them and they know it. I've seen kids talk to teachers with language George Carlin would wince to. What do they get? A time out. Big freaking deal, and that's what the kids think too. So now they grow up, kill some dude at the local quicky mart for a couple hundred bucks. What do they get? 10-20 years in prison, and most likely get paroled in 10. A freaking time out. I have a friend that's a sexual predator counselor at the local youth facility, that's right folks, we've got 6th graders that are rapists. His father in law is a guard at the prison across the street. So I get to hear all the "good" stories about what goes on inside. That's probably not helping my look on life either. That's the last of my rant, and comments for this thread. I'm not trying to change anybody's mind either, just throwing out my thoughts. I see, and understand your point as well.