I would say yes and no. Some people are simply loyal to the brand. There are many here that no matter how many failing the N800 has, they will remain loyal to it and Nokia. Nothing wrong with that. The same can be said of Apple as well. I bought my N800 after just seeing a guy use it in a shop. No hype, no advertising other than him playing with it and it looked cool. However, after some issues I got rid of it because it just did not stack up. The iPhone, on the other hand is a more mass market consumer product while the N800 isn't, however it could be with a bit of help. I am sure Nokia will look at the iPhone, and the N800 and something pretty cool should be in the works. Finns are pretty smart people.