thanks, that makes sense. im trying to use the proximity only. when i first installed the default proximity setting had me having to smush the phone against my face for the speakers to turn off. i then set it to the higher setting and it made it so i could hold the phone comfortably to my ear to get the speakers to turn off. this seemed to work better for me. now without the settings it seems to be set to what the default was and im back to having to smush the phone against my face so i just disabled it all together. so that setting had some kind of effect. would it be possible to set the default to what ever the max was (40?)? it just seemed to work a lot better for me and now its just uncomfortable to use.