winmo and palm died because of the stupid people behind it. for years, all you see is the same thing with very slow growth. they were very contented that they're the only 2 smartphone os and didn't expect symbian to gain ground fast. it was too late to regain themselves when iphone came out and the finishing blow from android. it's all over for them...

it's good for microsoft that they're richer than palm so they can try to rise from the ashes again longer than palm...