Have you actually got an N810 with Wayfinder - because you are talking absolute rot and garbage. I have an N810, and a valid wayfinder licence (expires 2011), and it is working ABSOLUTELY FINE. Yes, now wayfinder have gone, I cannot renew my licence, but I would not have done anyway. Yes, there has been no map updates for a couple of years, but I have not come across a road that I have used which has been missing. Yes, there is no support, but I have only used it a couple of times - not a dealbreaker. The game has changed in the last few months - I recently bought a Nokia phone for £80 (100 euros) which has free voice guided maps anyway so I have an alternative which is more modern anyway. Before my NITs I had a garmin sat-nav which cost more, and nagged at me to purchase new maps everytime I turned it on, once I had owned it for a year without any option to turn the nag off - now thats a bad product. So yes Yukop4 - I have risen to Troll bait - now go and crawl back under your rock and shut the .... up unless you have something constructive to say.