Thread: Everyone else has caught up and Nokia has been left behind
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2010-04-22 , 22:16
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Originally Posted by mrojas View Post
Nokia's reaction, short-term, was the 5800 XM. Quite a success.
Yes it was, I bought it and returned it cause of the UI. Got a E71 and didn't look back. Don't confuse brand loyalty to a good product. it only takes one so far.

They do have a clear product strategy, based in the motto "One size doesn't fit all". It was presented crystal clear in Nokia World, in the presentation of Capital Markets, etc. Just google around for it.

The 3rd world market is in fact the market where the money is. The richest man of the world based his money in mobile in the developing world. Source: [url]http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2010/03/carlos-slim-worlds-richest-person-made-his-money-with-mobile.html
While the idea is great, But then why would Nokia try and simplify their product lines with the new nomenclature. I guess it does make sense at some level.

IF all the money was in developing countries. Nokia would be making tons of profits and going upwards only.

Look at the APAC countries, Nokia dominate there hands down. But does it compare well to the companies who play only in the developed markets mainly?

Nokia needs to have a leg in both the worlds, not just one. Profit and sales may be related but are not the same IMHO.


The whole idea of Qt, of Symbian passed to the Foundation and MeeGo is precisely to make hardware irrelevant, as long is running Qt. In a sense, an OS is a virtualization layer between the HW and SW. That is why I know I can run Windows or Linux software on my PC, independently if its an Acer, Dell, Lenovo, etc.
Did you really just compare a general purpose computer software/OSes to a targeted embedded one? Call me when you can run different OSes on embedded devices that easily too.

Yes QT will help, but the underlying support and some standardization needs to be there to help it along.

While I don't like the differences between FP's and N and E series, it is clearly working for them (i.e: marketshare just grew, see post above mine).
The market share just shows sales of those devices seperately, Doesn't show how much better it could be if they had more overlap in functionality. But I guess that's a difference of opinion.

Mine is based so, cause I have seen enough people cribbing about the disparity. You may not have.

And that is exactly why MeeGo is coming around, and why Symbian^3 and 4 are being designed.
I'm hopeful Meego within a Nokia UI/Ecosystem might be nice. But it being open I worry about it too much getting ripped apart by every vendor as they see fit. What it does to application portability or platform viability I don't know.

Symbian 3 & 4 I'm not sure about yet. The UI till now in the demos hasn't looked very promising. I'm more of a realist than an outright optimist in that regards. Lets see.


Agreed, and they are working on it. That you have been unable to inform yourself adequately, or disagree with their decisions, doesn't invalidate them.
I'm informed enough to know where I think a company I like lacks, and where they are good at. I suggest you keep the attitude to yourself on that regards.

I have done so, and they are happy with their N900's.
I sincerely hope they are too . But I don't recommend a beta product to anyone. I don't mind owning one myself as I keep a E72 for important purposes.

Meego I may after using it. The N900 I just wont. After a friend ended up buying one after using mine and got stuck in the whole mail for exchange mess.

[rant]One thing that I hate from Internet, is that anyone is free to spew their opinions, no matter how misinformed they are, and present it as the holy grail of truth. It is something that is happening in the media as well, sadly.[/rant]
I somehow seem to handle better their lack of faith or misguided optimism.
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