@abill_uk: If you comprehend the depth and subtleties of this particular subject, it wouldn't take you long to realize that 'growing' an opensource ecosystem around a platform is not so simple. Just look at maemo for crying out loud, it's been out there for 4-5+ years and where are all the free flow of software to rival the closed platforms newer than it?? The oss community are not as simple to motivate (and understand) as commercial developers community. YES, if nokia (or anyone) manages to 'harness' this resource, they can get far more in return than their traditional financial investments. BUT, this will realize itself more as a PARTNERSHIP with the community, because, see, the oss community is not that dumb as you thought them to be. I'm happy to see that you keep finding new things as we discuss more in this thread and i encourage you to be man enough to acknowledge any mistakes if they ever come up