OK, so i thought id have a play and foned voadfone again. seem to have got it working,... at last...

Did following

Removed battery whilst on.
removed sim
fired back up without sim
removed batt again whilst on
replaced sim
fired back up.
went to Phone network settings and tried to change to orange, failed. (of course it would)
phone was then offline.
went back to settings, and reselcted voadafone UK.

in the mean time, i got the guy at vodafone to switch off my MMS, then reactivate it.

set username and password to WAP and USER

and it works.!

only problem i have now, is even if i set my connection to Vodafone GPRS only, it keeps connecting to the MMS access point for internet.??? any ideas??

Cheers Ross.