thanks piecaff & aflegg, that was indeed the solution.

Can someone tell me why though? Javascript was previously enabled wasn't it, when it worked before? and it's a little annoying to have to choose between watch beeb vids and using things like that stopwatch link posted recently... is this an opera thing, something changed at the bbc site or what? I don't reall understand why having javascript enabled would make the bbc site think my 800 doesn't have realplayer?

anyway, cheers for the solution, it's what makes this place great