Thanks mate. Never did find the blue grid-icon in Panels, but I will keep looking. Maybe it was a hiccup. I've thot about installing Telescope but maybe I'm just being an old fart set in his ways, lol. For now I went back to trusty old Frediablo, but I'm excited to see Diablo5/OS2008 come thru. I wish I had patience to draw on the computer, I'd love to theme or just help. Great stuff all, exciting theme, looking forward to breaking my old habits and living without minimize/hardware minimize, lol.