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Originally Posted by lq_sunshine View Post
google a bit.. you will find a quake 2 port written in html5.
this shows that even complex 3d games can be written in html5
http://m.kotaku.com/5507640

so who needs flash?

flash will die
Yes if you google up a bit more you can also find Flash version of Quake 2 done 2 years ago if no longer. And even now to compare to HTML5 perform faster. And don't forget that 10.1 is about to improve and accelerate not only video bout handling vector drawings via GPU as well.

I will repeat what one smart guy here had said some day.
What do you think where thousands of hundred advert companies will move If Flash will disappear from the market? To HTML 5 to make a fully supported html5 across all the browsers doing internet hell for us.
Don't forget we talking about Thousands hundreds of work places * size of company around the world.
Don't for get we talking about instead of prepare banner within 1 hour in flash, 1 day in html5 for now? Cost of production?

As Adobe pointing out Flash and HTML5 can work together same way as was from decade. And if someone will give us alternative to watch youtube via HTML5 good for all of us. The point is, if HTML5 will replace some areas to achieve same level as Flash will be less efficient more processor hog more battery hungry and so on. People following the fashion can ad another one level of stupidity to the internet on top of already exist.

That's what you wont?
For Steve Job's game is clear, find a way around to close here ecosystem even more. Make you believe that technology base on open standard is better since he closing it even more. Same way as some companies made as believe that Operating System based on Open Source will give us more freedom. So why we waiting for update? Go for it! Create your own app.. yes, who knows what new changes and decision coming from above up to us. You are lucky if you can. But we are still depend of this ecosystem as well.

But we talking about mainstream here and majority of users. Flash and HTML is already working for all of us. You have choice and freedom to create your web content. Your customer doesn't need to pay for Flash Player, it's free, You don't have to buy tools from adobe to create Flash content, it's free. The only problem is distribution. I am glad that Adobe keeping this in their hands yet. Imagine what could happen if not.

Apple creating their own Flash player, based on open swf format.
Making it shiny and after couple of years introduce to the world this is the best solution ever because is Apple one. You have to overpay now because is cool, no matter what is inside and html5.. so our version of flash player is even better than HTML 5 now and any other competitor flash player. So, who cares. Let's create the Appternet based on our solution because is the best. People will forget about standard net, one step will destroy all we know and will kill not adobe but all of the companies we know. Ohh and we will remove all the porn from the Apptenet!

Sounds good isn't

Don't forget that all of the market players who count don't have issues to get flash players and distribute it across the devices. I am not really getting all conservative developers hate and argument that flash is close. Is not close for you as developer is not as for customer is not for key players and competitors. Nokia has access HTC as well, Even Apple could. Is not the one tat trying to make us happy by force. Right?

So why you developers are so against if that state of this technology is as is and doesn't affect anybody except sick imagination of CEO of one company on the world? Please tell me.

Your conservatism in this case provide to anarchy no matter how good you are and worry about your clear code (for example beautiful simple task like refresh the list after update one item taking full processor power and 30 sec to refresh)

If we developers no matter who you are what technology or language prefer will not stand together against what big players what to tell us internet soon will be the same box as TV set. We should defend of the idea of keep alive the freedom of choice for any price!
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