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2010-05-25 , 18:08
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Originally Posted by quipper8 View Post
I have been reading some of the meego meeting irc logs that are online, although it still appears most discussion is still closed and takes place internally on #meego-arm, and it appears that although the meego team does have contacts inside Nokia to get some things, there is no telling how long that cooperation will last.
What? Anyone can join #meego-arm on freenode, there's like 43 people there and we're only 14 or so in the team It is even publically logged, if you go to the channel to get the URL in topic. We do have contacts inside Nokia, because, well, we have team members from Nokia doing their part and sometimes reaching out to the people with the right knowledge is needed. Check out http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Meetings

In one specific example, the battery management entity is attempting to be added to meego and is not behaving properly. Nokia provided BME does not provide any debug output whatsoever. A contact attempt will be made to nokia for at least a debug version if not source code. Maybe they got it, maybe not, we don't know.
Specifically it said we are going to make a debug version in the internal OBS. This is not the same as a 'contact attempt', it's one of the people with access to internal OBS making this change to a packaging flag.

This same dance is going to have to be carried out for every bit of closed driver-ness, which likely includes opengl, audio, BT, WLAN, and on and on.

The nokia cooperation is only going to last until the first meego
hardware prototypes are available that use different drivers and there will be noone to go to anymore for n900 driver stuff.
No, the dance is just actually doing what's needed to be done. Most team members have the right access to get the job done and know who to contact.

The meego team is just using the n900 for reference right now because that is all there is. it is not because of some kind of benevolence toward users or the n900 hardware. Once there is new hardware, I don't think we will see meego team trying to merge sh*t into meego kernel for n900 any longer, and even if they tried to, the intel people would likely shoot it down immediately. So, enjoy your n900 for the time being, but get ready to pony up for the next device.
I think you're being too paranoid and exaggerating things. Come spend a day with us in the IRC channel and watch our work. It is a new kind of work which you might not know too well - open development. If this was the old days, we wouldn't even be seeing an updated kernel on the N900. This is new times.
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