Thread: Maemo 5 PR1.2: Bugs
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2010-05-26 , 13:44
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#200
Originally Posted by garyc2010 View Post
Joorin

"The thread you're pointing at describes a problem that really is based on misconceptions about how the phone, and WiFi, works. This is not a "dodgy phone/OS" issue."

its a secure shell, not rocket science. If they cant get ssh right, no wonder nothing else works. "misconception" , that old chestnut that keeps popping up time and again, its the user NOT the phone.
The thread was about connectivity changing, not being able to log into the device but outbound traffic working well, which is all about the power saving mode in the WiFi module. OpenSSH works just a well as on any desktop computer. And yes, I did the legwork and investigated while developing an application to fiddle with the WiFi settings.

And the OpenSSH that's installed is, as far as I know, the same as is installed on any Debian/Linux machine out there, just cross compiled.

So, in this case, it was the user not understanding how the device works.

"but your tone is, to say the least, as immature as the rest"

The usual....if you don't sing the praises of the almighty N900/Maemo stillborn Mobile Phone ...*YOU* have the problem, not the phone
Now it's your turn to lick the old chestnut. I have only one reason to comment: you're not grasping what the actual problem was in the thread you're referring to. Simple as that. I agree on many things you say about problems with the device and I have no reason to disagree with the point that much has been rushed.

But when you're plain wrong, I see no reason to not correct you.

"The size of your eP3n1s is pretty irrelevant"

Hmm posessing a BSc Hons In Software Engineering, I am *qualified* to comment on these matters, are you ??? or can you just made stupid comments like above, that you so quickly complain about others making ?
I'm glad you're well educated. That doesn't change the fact that you did a mistake while reading the thread you referred to and is in the wrong when it comes to what caused the problem reported in that thread.

Asking me if I can match your education is just bad form when you've obviously made a mistake. And if you're that well educated, wouldn't you want to be corrected so as to not spread false information any more? I know I do.

And the tone, with "eP3n1s", was both a way to evade the puritan word checking and trying to show you how you come across. Education and stature is nothing if you're wrong in what you say.

Did you check the list of fixes?

Yes and I was alarmed at the scope and quantity of bugs in the released software
PR1.1.1 is far from perfect, I completely agree.

Did you have a look at the list of new functionality?

Yes had a read of the changelog, in fact it was a Joke

things like

"File Manager is now able to share any file and/or folder" - wtf !!!!! damn what a nice *feature* that a "File Manager" can now handle any file or folder. christ its a sick sick joke.
Since we both come from a Linux/UNIX background, I can only agree. But seen from the perspective of a random user, only being able to manipulate whatever is stored under MyDocs makes more sense.

But I agree, a file manager should be just that.

No more "More" menu in application launcher, and is rearrangeable - wow !!!!!!!, like did it really take *months* to get such a killer "feature", time wasted on this says priorities are all wrong and development is no longer serious.
Depending on how interdependent the parts are, this might very well be a bigger fix than one might think. And you don't know when it was finished. All you know is that it was shipped now. It might very well have been done in the first month of work and be a really small fix.

Its plain to see n900/maemo is dead in the water, the lifespan of my phones is 1-1&1/2 years, these *URGENT* bug-fixes and the addition of BASIC functionality needs to be addressed in MUCH Shorter time-scales, no point getting them a year or two later is there ?
I completely agree regarding bug fixes, and especially when it comes to basic functionality.

as youve prob guess im *REALLY* pi$$ed off, not at the cost alone, but the fact such low quality software was released in the 1st place,
There will always be bad software released ahead of time. Taken as a whole, the N900 holds up pretty well with obvious flaws here and there even though it was rushed. I gnaw my teeth almost every day since I'm chained to a buggy Windows installation at work and say the same thing about low quality software.

and i know there are alot of other n900 users who feel the same.
You being as well educated as you claim, you should know that this isn't a valid argument. Stay away from the obvious fallacies and your valid points will have more weight.

And i am entitled to be mad at the amount of money i have spent.
Rave and rant as much as you want but don't expect to get away with spreading false information.

For me the only hope as far as i can see is a successful port of android, whats the chances of Nokia opening up its drivers for this wonderful "open" platform ?????
There is already an Android version for the N900 as a community port. I'm not in on the details, but it works to some extent.

Software drives a platform........and thats why the n900 is DOA.
Customers drive a platform. Users drive a platform. Not keeping up with demands is the killer if you ask me. But I'm sure you won't.

well i do eat what i am served thx, with my 3gs i can dine a la carte from a menu of over 100,000 meal, with the n900 my choice is reduced to a few stale,out of date, half-baked turds of applications........may hurt but *that* is the truth of it.
You can have sprinkles on your turds, it's the latest from Paris.
 

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