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@gerbick;

I guess the only reason I said what I did is this:

Lately, among these forums, the general tone and feel of the community has deteriorated tremendously. This goes on both ends, the supporters and the anti's are both more aggressive and more unfriendly than ever before that I've seen (from iTT to t.m.o). Now, many like to blame Nokia for this.. Nokia made them unhappy so it's their fault they come here and try to tell everyone they got screwed, shafted, their phone sucks, whatever.

I have seen you in a great many threads, gerbick, repeating the same complaints that many others have: Now granted, valid complaints sure (mostly)- but not always in the friendliest of ways, not always able to remain calm (one side or the other usually says something derogatory and it just goes downhill from there).. and ultimately - it helps to continue to create the same problem that everyone is tired of here.

I've seen you (i'm pretty sure) complain about how a person can come to these forums, ask a simple question (one that has been answered before) - and basically get flamed out of existence.

Does it happen? Yes. But why does it happen? Well, one cop out we could give is just that we have unfriendly people here and just deal with it. But I would take it a bit further: We have so many people here that for, whatever reason, don't like the N900 but insist on repeating that to everyone who ever posts a like for the N900.. that the people who have the answers, who do like their phone, simply start getting fed up, short tempered, and respond more directly than necessary.. if at all.

I understand doing your research and asking questions: but you can't honestly tell me that you always just "ask" a question without loading it first because you already knew the answer. And that, I think, is helping to deteriorate the iTT that we both love(d).

You and I both know that this is not Nokia's complaint forums. While some in Nokia might see your complaints: As history has shown us we can pretty much drop any expectation that we'll change anything within Nokia from here. What I, and I would hope you, gerbick, need to focus on here is the community. The people here, on these forums, they are what matters.

It doesn't matter if tomorrow Nokia becomes Apple... that doesn't mean we stop caring about the people here.. we here are not Nokia. We don't need to be constantly reminded how Nokia has or hasn't failed us... what matters here, is how can the community compensate for what we've been failed? How can we make the best of what we've got?

It seems to me.. too many people have lost sight of that. It's sad really.... and I certainly don't mean to single you out Gerbick.. of the people here that have complaints: You are the least problematic one I've seen - as you are the most (consistently speaking) constructive about it. With anyone else, this likely would have become a flame war - but I honestly needed to talk with someone that I constantly see on the opposite side of the N900 debate to really understand the "why". I knew I could involve you and get some straight answers... so I thank you for that.

I truly do hope, for all our sakes, that MeeGo is fully functional on the N900. And in that end.. I hope to be able to help where I can make that a possibility.
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