Ok I have got fmms working. Hurray and thanks frals. Then I got voda phone to send me mms settings which you had to do, in I guess earlier versions. Now fmms dont send. OK delete the settings voda phone sent me. There lies the problem. I cant delete the "contract internet" settings that VF sent me. It does not show up in fapn and in settings internet the option to delete the settings is greyed out when I select the settings.