Hi - could you explain this bit to me again please? You refer to your db you saved before update - is that the el.db that is in rtcom-eventlogger? I moved that out to /home/user/... I'm also unsure what you're deleting - the mv *.db* command surely acts the same as deleting the .db files by moving them out of their normal location? Thanks in advance... EDIT: The original method in this post turned out to work for me. I hadn't copied the el.db back before restoring the backup the first time. I've lost about 3 days of conversation although that's alright - think I only had about 5 messages which I can deal without! Still curious about the second method!