thanks, the reason I am looking at perl is I am trying to make the switch to linux admin and every job I look for asks for perl scripting. some mention python but perl seems to for whatever reason be the one for admins (not developers but scripting admins). plus my book (learning perl 5th addition) though backwards compatible, focuses on 5.10 perl. so do we think I could fire up a recent version on the debian chroot with the help of this forum?