I think quite a few people on both sides need to take a deep breath and lower their shields a bit.

PB: Texrat takes threads about moderation personally because, even when generic, he is a moderator, and is one of the ones being referred to. Also, if he decides that he is unsure anymore why he should spend hours of his personal life trying to help a community that doesn't seem to want or need that help - then he has every right to do that.

Tex: I don't think PB's intent was as maligned as you originally took it. I think he was expressing a point of view and wanted a discussion on how the community (you keep bolding, so I can too! ) wants this to be handled in the future.

After all, that's what these threads are for: To judge what the majority of people here want to see. AFAIK: We are more democratic run than dictator-driven.. so judging peoples opinions every once in a while is not bad.

I think this (among many other threads) could have been a rather constructive look at the state of things at T.M.O. As w00t said, most people on all sides agree the atmosphere around here has increasingly sucked.

Unfortunately, people (this on ALL SIDES) are taking things too personally, and getting too defensive - to have a truly constructive opinion. Maybe we should enact the old, unused Brainstorm system and open a Brainstorm thread on "How to improve the T.M.O. atmosphere".

Unfortunately, I think that'll turn quickly negative as the rest start, or become very quickly.

All I know is.. something (not directing this at moderators, not directing this at Reggie, Nokia, or anyone in particular) needs to change. We need to find how to migrate back to the way we felt with iTT. That was a home: This is becoming a homeless shelter.