And removing council from positions of moderation is not going to help correct an incorrect assumption at all, it's just going to take some of the people who are tasked as being more representative of the community as a whole and add arbitrary restrictions to them, as I see it. Fact is, that the council is the community's representatives to Nokia, a grease for keeping the cogs moving if you want. I haven't seen any real complaint with the work they do on these forums, and I don't think penguinbait's original issue was with any of them in particular. .. unless I'm drastically misunderstanding the point you're making, which is possible..