Ok i guess for some i am just not explanative enough and for that i do apologise. I just feel it is a shame the forum does get somewhat out of hand and as it has been pointed out on here it only takes a comment from someone that is read the wrong way and off it goes. While you lot talk about threads and behaviour etc i am busy doing mod's to the hardware that makes a difference to the N900 but this thread is not the place to discuss that so i say it in brief. Sorry i am not understood fully but anyone with knowledge of design will understand what i am briefly saying. The only way to stop the nonsence is to simply delete it gone out of sight but that takes more work for the mod's and i do feel this forum is rather filling up with mindless arguments in a lot of area's so that is something a mod can sort out. Please tell me what i need to explain more and i surely will.