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Originally Posted by Nathraiben View Post
(And don't take that personally - from the fact that you're actually literate enough to formulate your answers without every other word being "cool", "freakin'" and "looser" makes me believe that you're not one of those... :P :P :P )
Kewl, thx

...her reply was: "Yes, but it's not made by Apple!"
I wouldn't call her 'stupid' by that one response, since she may be better than me in cooking, accounting, raising a family or whatever else. Personally, I think it's just a combination of brand trust due to her consistently positive past experience with said brand. We tend to simplify our decision making on things that are not in our core area of interest. Quick question, do you have a preferred brand of cooking pans?

Religious fanatism has always been highly dangerous, and that's exactly what blindly following every word of Steve Gods... sorry, Jobs... has turned into. I swear, the next preacher that tries to convince me that "this is exactly what you have been looking for this past 30 years - believe me, give it a try" will make the acquaintance of my old iPhone. Rectally.
Fanboyism exists on all consumer brands. It is an unfortunate social occurrence, but understandable.

...multitasking...
I'm pretty sure the research and articles were talking about human multitasking, not implementation of OS multitasking...

One big difference between multitasking on a mobile handset vs desktop (With sufficient screen estate) is that viewing and manipulating multiple documents at the same time is possible on a desktop while you cannot on a mobile device, simply because of the physical screen limitation. I think this weights heavily on mobile multitasking implementation design.

I hope it does supports multitasking with the eMail app and the internet browser?
AFAIK, those two apps have always been able to run in the background from iPhone 1.0. Emails are always checked\pushed in the background and your outbox are queued regardless of the mail apps running in the foreground or not. The browser seems to stays in memory for as long as possible (Depending on other apps needing ram).

(If they are finally implementing multi-tasking... why not FULLY?)
Jobs said that it mainly has to do with optimizing power usage. I'm pretty sure that ranks in the top 3 (if not the top), other than Jobs' continuous need to control everything in his ecosystem.

1) Then why is Apple trying to sell their products as such?
As what? Can you point out to specific PR or Ad so we can discuss the same thing

2)I wouldn't even say that they managed to design something that most people like. I think they are just really, REALLY good at PR and turning everything into a hype.
There's no question they're one of the best if not the best in marketing their products (and ideas).... but their ui design are generally intuitive enough to be grasped by most people so it becomes easy to use even to those new to the device/platform, although usually limited in their configurability and extensibility.

OSK comment:
As far as on-screen keyboards are concerned, I think their implementation is better than Android. OSK on resistive screens are a pain to use compared those on capacitive, imho. But on the scale of preferences: most people prefer hardware keyboard over osk for obvious reasons, as I also do.

What's dangerous is those who would eagerly spend a fortune on a stone, if only it had a rotten apple painted on it's back, on one hand - because once those stones make the better part of the market share, producing computers and selling them at normal prices will no longer be attractive and EVERYBODY will be forced to deal with the painted rock.
You should be relieved that they have unsuccessful products even in their current lineup Case in point: AppleTV... which is rumored to be updated soon.

And on the other hand those who love Apple for taking away their rights because "If I cannot decide, I cannot decide on the wrong thing, right?" are a rather disturbing sign of a rapidly declining society.

The current trend of "Please take me by the hand, I'm afraid of the free will monster" will eventually take us back into the Dark Ages, and by then us independent-minded people will either be forced to feign obedience or be burned as witches again.
(Allegorically... :P)
I think this can spark an interesting discussion in a different thread, with a more specific example (just to make sure that everyone will be talking about the same thing).

But no one in their right mind starts out with "Please take me by the hand, I'm afraid of my own free will". It usually starts out by looking at the selections of what they can do/consume (if you're talking about media) among different platforms and how they're dressing the selections up.
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