This forum is not about Nokia at all, it is about the software and a select few devices Nokia have released with a Debian GNU/Linux based operating system. If this forum seems to be "ALL ABOUT NOKIA" it's becuase since the N900 we've all had to suffer a bunch of whiney kids that didn't really make a particulalry informed purchase. Now, that aside, we do like to support each other, and even though we all find it very frustrating having to put up with the certain types that moan and *****, constantly, abouut Nokia here. We still try to help them. So please forgive some of us if we appear short tempered, and, if you have issue with Nokia, go to the Nokia support forum. (which abill_uk is not here ...)