Thread: All widgets gone for no reason? home screen is unresponsive? Media player widget play button stop working? My Idea
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2010-06-16 , 11:17
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Do You Have the Symptoms listed bellow on your N900? Don’t feel like Nokia have done anything to resolve the issue since reported on 2010-01-31? Sick of waiting and want to contribute ideas and maybe a fix for this issue?

_______________Symptoms_______________
*You Media player widget play button stop working
*you lost all of your widgets for no reason
*you have high CPU usage
*your home screen is unresponsive
*your N900 comes slow and jerky after a few days
*your N900 battery starts to drain fast until you restart
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_______________Problem_______________

* PR1.2 was seriously delayed for many reasons but one of those reasons which is still not fixed is this bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8723 . This bug is the main cause of the above symptoms. (there are many other bug reports)
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_______________Evidence_______________

This is a quote from chemist (Linux 2x debian stable 1x testing ) who can confirm this was a delay justification but the issue has by no means gone away and will never go away until you get a new device. Don’t plan on nokia to fix it as a bad widget will bring the issue right back again.

To pick up on Texrats advice...

Please be aware of that HK version is some kind of different to the global version so there maybe other things they have to look at for the global one.

Asking again and again for explanations wont help as you wont get much more than already released.

Nokia has a demand of working PRs so it might take some time to fullfill this. As already mentioned in the email, there are some bugs not easy to track down. I am currently investigating in hildon-home hickups which take about 2-5 days to occure so to determine which of the 3rd party programs is causing it takes weeks of testing already. He wrote about longterm issues and maybe they got a way to get something like home mess up in a shorter time but still it will take weeks to test and fix.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8723 - Reported 2010-01-31

If you like to have your phone broken or bricked because of a leaked PR's RC this is ok with me. Maybe there is no closed community test for PR1.2 as Nokia does not want to take the risk yet. Have you thought of that they may bricked devices while testing and decided to not release yet?

Please chill out on the PR1.2 topic. We all have to wait! Posting off-topic and Nokia requests all over the place doesn't help any one but keeps the moderators busy.
http://www.forums.internettablettalk.com/showpost.php?p=649228&postcount=29
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_______________My FIX – Idea points_______________

-Points of proposal-
1: Create a new hildon process called ‘hildon-widget’
2: Separate widgets from hildon-home completely
3: Layer of hildon-home and multiple instances of hildon-widget
4: Each individual widget owns an instance of hildon-widget and doesn't affect any other instance as currently a widget breaks, the whole phone breaks and a restart won’t fix it.
5: A widget using a instance of hildon-widget starts to break due to bugs, memory leaks, high CPU usage and hangs it auto restart’s a fresh copy of hildon-widget with the widget back on the screen automatically without the user being aware.
6: When a widget does crash and restarts itself, it dump’s information into an event log so it can easily be debugged or redeveloped. No more looking around for weeks on end.


Know what I mean? Maybe someone can code this? This just puts me off if I was a developer as I would be worried to develop widgets. Anything I develop might seriously hinder the device. It should be about promoting the open source community not scaring it into moving away from it. What are we supposed to do just not use widgets? Not make phone calls? Wait for the screen to stop showing a black screen before I answer a call? Re-launch the media widget every day??

Let’s face it Nokia will not fix this issue so it’s up to us. what do you guys think?? impossible?? nothing is impossible!!

_______________My FIX – Visual representation_______________


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Last edited by felbutss; 2010-06-17 at 09:43.
 

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